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[edit] Wiki Administration

Feel free to leave feedback and requests concerning this wiki's settings and extensions. -- FND 10:59, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Deletion is Hostile

I don't appreciate your aggression, FND. And no, I won't just indulge it because you're a grand.poobah. Reverting to blank is one thing ... that preserves history. But deleting is something else all together, especially since I noted "I couldn't find another place for this", and posted it to the Talk page rather than to the article. It's painfully obvious to me that your own personal preferences have entirely displaced whatever you ever knew about WikiSpirit. --Bentrem 21:54, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Flash: Bug on your DevPad

Hi - Ok to use this page for contact?
TagNavigatorTest is throwing errors. --Bentrem 18:50, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

The place for discussions is generally the TiddlyWiki Users group.

As for my DevPad, there's a lot of experimental stuff there (thus the tagline), and I haven't been actively maintaining it for a while. Thanks for letting me know though.

-- FND 19:20, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

I would never think of going to TiddlyWiki Users to feedback about an individual's personal site. --Bentrem 01:54, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Importing: External Resources

Hi there - just responding to your "undue removal" reversion of duplicate external links in "See Also". I take your point ... the material is important, ok. So I figure putting their second appearance under "External Resources" lofts them while preserving the traditional usage of "See Also", yaa? FWIW I put a note in Talk:Importing.
BTW: did you know that "by FND" points to a thread in the google group? I anticipated that it would link to your profile.
cheers --Bentrem 04:41, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks Bentrem. I guess External Resources works for now.

As for the pointer to Google Groups, that's intentional - it's where the quote originated.

-- FND 07:47, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

It might seem compulsively fastidious on small pages, but when things bulk up ... anyhow, yaa. cheers --Bentrem 18:19, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] MakeMostRecentlyViewedTiddlersDefault

OK, so you deleted the page I just made. Now, how do I find the text so that I can move it to http://groups.google.com/group/TiddlyWiki like you suggested?

On another level, I rather like the idea of a wiki as a place to develop ideas, including - for example - plugins that may or may not exist. I really haven't the time to read through all the existing posts at http://groups.google.com/group/TiddlyWiki to find out if anyone has had the same idea, I had. Adn if I did find it, it would help only me. While I could post the problem/idea there, I feel the information would fade into the past. A wiki, on the other hand, allows you to tag and link articles together in ways that make reading much less waste of time. For example, see what I added to Popular Plugin Sites. When used that way, articles may or may not develop into something of common interest, but simply deleting them too soon prevents that possibility.

-- PoulStaugaard 14:15, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Poul,

I meant no harm in deleting your page. I wasn't aware that only sysops could view deleted page contents - so here's the original contents of MakeMostRecentlyViewedTiddlersDefault:

Now, I still think that page doesn't belong there.
Regular wiki pages are for encyclopedic content - i.e. descriptions of existing entities (features, plugins etc.), which this was not. If someone actually ended up developing such a plugin (or if it already existed), that'd be a different issue then.

You might try presenting and discussing this idea on your user page, or possibly on the Community Portal.
However, be aware that discussions on the wiki usually don't draw a lot of (if any) participation - that's what the group / mailing list is there for.
Nevertheless, you are very welcome to use the wiki for summarizing the outcome of such a discussion (similarly to what I did on Dev:Redesign).

-- FND 14:36, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

If that's your opinion, then why do have a link to Plugin Ideas on your user page ? And if it is, you should also object to what I added at the bottom of Popular Plugin Sites. If you do, please leave it there for a while, just to see if some good should come of it after all. It's not as though this site is overburdoned with new content, and if you insist that it is only for documenting what exists, I expect it will grow very slowly. But of course, it's always a balance. My fear, though, is that it will be dismissed as form over content, like so many other sites.

-- PoulStaugaard 18:32, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

That link leads to User:FND/Plugin Ideas - it's only labeled as "Plugin Ideas".

As for Popular Plugin Sites, I don't see anything that I might object to (except somewhat flawed wiki markup - no offense). I actually like the idea of listing a few exemplary plugins there!
However, note that the table is auto-generated content, so we might have to ask Simon to incorporate your changes in the future.

By the way, there's also a discussion group for this wiki (or the documentation effort in general): [twdocs].

-- FND 16:52, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Language Support

A kind request!

Hello Friends !

I need a help,Can you please add my language into this Wiki.

Language : Sinhala -Sri Lanka (Si-LK) Thank you !

Hello,

I'm not entirely sure what you mean - like on Wikipedia, maybe (the box at the bottom of the left sidebar)? That would be a separate wiki then, and I'm afraid we/I don't have the resources to maintain multiple wikis.

Also, who would contribute to such a language-specific project?

You might request a Wikia wiki for this purpose though, at least for starters.

-- FND 08:27, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Format for Discussion

I'm wondering, what do you think of this?

The reason we decided on using horizontal rulers for separating individual messages was twofold: clear visual separation and simplicity.

The Wikipedia-style indentation works for Wikipedia - but since TW discussions are lead on the groups rather than on this wiki, we can do without the complexity and clutter of such threaded conversations.

Also, since few TiddlyWiki users are intimately familiar with MediaWiki, using horizontal rulers is a much better common ground.

Having said that, using Template:Quote is a good idea (as long as it's optional). In fact, Daniel uses something very similar.

-- FND 08:13, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

PS: We got off to a rough start (which I admit was also my fault), but I guess we're on a good path now.

Now, you see, "simplicity" is what I'm aiming at. For e.g. on another talk page you inserted a horizontal rule between your original and my reply, which I'd indented. (Kind of you to let the indent stand.) That adds clarity? I'd say no ... IMNSHO it's a strong gesture that signifies a break where none exists. The indented reply has long history in text ... adding the HR can in some situations be both appropriate and meaningful, and that's the point, nae?

Having said that, yaa some template would be nice ... so long as it pays the freight; not point requiring arcane markup for sake of elegant simplicity in Talk. (I just added the "Add Comment" links to my user pages; wish there was something similar for "Add Reply".)

As for rough start, I'll take my share of that ... I'm not the most tactful of n00b WikiGnomes! --bentrem 15:43, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

Quite frankly, I don't think this issue is worth this much grief - as I've said, this wiki isn't meant for discussions anyway, so it's almost a moot issue. Let's just focus on the actual content, which is where we generally seem to agree. -- FND 16:48, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

Oh, hey, if you didn't go to the effort of changing each and every of my simple indents, it wouldn't be a matter of discussion. The way I work is this: if it matters to you, then it matters. Ipso facto. --bentrem 17:24, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Welcome

Well, I do try to make the articles comply with the standards, but DefaultTiddlers? I mean, what more can be done to it to "complete" it? In anycase, I just noticed that you were the only one doing stuff for a good while and figured lending a hand would be the polite thing to do.
Therefore, I'll keep on trying to do an error-free job. -- Age 05:13, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

That's great!

As for DefaultTiddlers, I'd consider that complete now - there's really not much more that can be said about it, I guess.

-- FND 08:03, 25 October 2008 (UTC)